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New Hardware for Virtuals

by @ 10:21 am on 2/17/2007. Filed under tech

I have been running more and more power hungry virtuals and finally had to load up some SQL Servers (I don’t like SQL Server the app[1]). This called to attention that I needed to use more than my older hardware for running virtuals so I ordered the materials to make Super Fast Virtual Mofo…. SFVM. I figured I should stick to the whole Fast Mofo naming scheme.

New hardware includes

Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Quad Core 2.66Ghz (yep, jumping back to Intel at the moment)

8GB DDR2800 G.SKILL RAM.

12 x 500GB 7200 RPM WD500 Disk Drives (SATA 3.GB/s)

LSI Logic SATA II PCI-X Controller Card – 8 Disk supporting RAIDs 0/1/5/10/50

ASUS P5WDG2-WS PRO MoBo (Someone convinced me that this would be the best Mobo for this config… I am skeptical of ASUS from previous experiences but will try)

Tagan TG800 800 Watt Power Supply

Sapphire Radeon x1050 256MB DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card

All wrapped up in a Lian Li PC-V2100BPlus II Black Aluminum Server Computer Case. (12 x 3.5 internal bays to start with)

I thought hard about using SCSI but the costs didn’t appeal to me, this was already far more than I normally ever consider spending. Plus having the spinning disk was very important because I wanted to more quickly be able to “enable” different environments versus unpacking and recovering them from DVDs.  Free from financial constraints I would have put in 20 of the largest capacity 15k SCSI disks I could find (12 in the internal 3.5’s, another 8 in 6 of the External 5.25’s with 3/4 adapters).

I would like to use MSFT virtualization but I don’t believe they have a x64 solution yet and plus when it comes down to perf, MSFT just can’t seem to keep up with VMWARE. Once I have this new machine completed I will move all of my current virtuals running on my old virtual hosts and on two of the newer machines reconfigure the disk layout and probably add some upgrades and then spin them back up as virtual hosts. There are three other really old physical machines that I will be shutting down and packing away which will be nice as it will free up some room. It will mean I no longer have any Dell desktops running in my house which is quite a change as I ran Dell for a long long time, I think it has been 10 years since I started running my first Dell Desktop. I still have one Dell laptop left but I am getting closer and closer to ending its life as well. On second thought, I may keep one of them and just rebuild it entirely as FreeBSD. We’ll see how it goes.

 

Of course I received the hardware from NewEgg in jigg time. The UPS man wasn’t thrilled, a ton of boxes and he had to haul it to my back door because I refused to shovel my front porch after all of the snow we have gotten lately.

Thoughts???

The case is HUGE…. Positively HUGE…. I opened it up and thought about moving into it as a second bedroom. That big…. Plus Lian Li cases…. most gorgeous cases out there that I have seen. I have two of them, one for my media center and now this server case. Jumping ahead, even with the all of these drives and everything else in it, it is quieter than several of my other PCs. It has foam applied to the sides to deaden the sound.

Power Supply… Excellent quality throughout. After this, I will buy no other power supplies other than Tagan.

The Intel Chip…. I opened the box and it was huge as well… oh wait, no that is the chip cooler and fan… Looks like something out of a sci-fi novel. Completely different way to attach it to the motherboard from what I have seen previously. Also no pins, just contacts.

MY one complaint at the moment is that 3 of the hard drives are bad. Well not completely bad, but bad enough that they are causing issues. If one of them is accessed by the onboard intel RAID it takes about 5 minutes to enumerate the drive. If one of them is accessed by the LSI RAID card it takes a while to load the BIOS but then it reports the drive is bad. Regardless of where I connect them they show as bad in the slots… So I take those as bad drives. Very annoying.

 

  joe

 

[1] I won’t explain it other than I am an infrastructure guy and I don’t believe SQL Server should be in the infrastructure. Its fine for business apps though.

Rating 3.00 out of 5

8 Responses to “New Hardware for Virtuals”

  1. you considered seeing if ESX supports that RAID controller? you can get it msdn style from VMWare for 299/yr

  2. Mike Kline says:

    I look forward to hearing how this works out for you. The quad core is what I want too. Put an Nvidia 8800 in there and you are going to have a kick ass gaming rig too. I look forward to your future gaming blog. 🙂

  3. Javier Jarava says:

    About the VMTN (“MSDN style from VMWARE”), I have to (sadly) add that it’s no longer true… VMWARE has decided to end their VMTN program.

    I was (barely) able to renew it a few days ago so I have access to the software for another year. I couldn’t get it from VMWARE directly, as the “checkout” on their site just failed, but I did manage to buy it through another online retailer… You might consider trying to get a renewal that way 😉 (I don’t remember the retailer name off the top of my head, but will dig it up if interested).

    I believe it’s a pity because it was a *great* way to expand virtualization usage…

    More info on the change:
    http://www.virtualization.info/2006/12/vmware-fades-out-vmtn-subscription.html

  4. Andrew from Vancouver says:

    Joe, I’m looking forward to an update on this, specifically how you decided to carve up those 12 drives, e.g. a pair for a mirror that is just host OS and swap, three drives for a RAID5 for this group of machines, another trio for that group of machines, 4 disks in a RAID5 for bulk storage…

  5. matheesha says:

    joe

    I am also spec’ing a rig to run VMs. Personally I am thnking of trying the VirtualIron which appears to be like VMWare ESX and they do a free version too. Not sure if you’ve heard of them. If you have I’d be interested in your opinion.

    Cheers

    M@

  6. matheesha says:

    Not sure if you’ve seen the video at http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver/longhorn/video/virtualization.wvx which shows longhorn virtualizations deinitely has support for X64. The video looks great. Unfortunately the beta is delayed. More info http://blogs.technet.com/windowsserver/archive/2007/04/12/Viridian-and-Virtual-Server-Timing-Updates.aspx here.

    As for VirtualIron, I just noticed that they dont support 64-bit Windows yet. Xen doesnt either. So I am eagerly awaiting Longhorn’s Virtualization beta.

    Would be nice to have some details of how SFVM is doing. Especially the config details. Hardware and Software.

    Cheers

    M@

  7. Artiman says:

    Joe,

    I’m planning to buy the same mobo ( ASUS P5WDG2-WS PRO) with a quad core CPU to run Vmware ESX 3.0.1 Can you confirm if you have had any problems ???
    What SCSI controller are u using ??

    Thanks,

    Andres

  8. jan says:

    can anyone confirm if this is working on the ASUS P5WDG2-WS PRO + a lsi megaraid sata card. all i hear is ppl having problems not booting kernel panics.. etc.

    anyone did it work?

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